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Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:31:27 -0700


On Sep 18, 2012, at 21:11 , Mike Hale <eyeronic.design () gmail com> wrote:

"this is the arin vigilante cultural view of the world.  luckily, the
disease does not propagate sufficiently to cross oceans."

I'd love to hear the reasoning for this.  Why would it be bad policy
to force companies to use the resources they are assigned or give them
back to the general pool?


Many of them _ARE_ using them, just not using them directly on the public
internet. There is nothing wrong with that.

As others have said... !announced != !used.

Owen

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
When IPv4 exhaustion pain reaches a sufficiently high level of pain;
there is a significant chance people who will be convinced that any
use of IPv4 which does not involve  announcing and  routing the address
space on the internet is a "Non-Use" of IPv4 addresses,

and that that particular point of view will prevail over the concept
and convenience of being allowed to maintain unique registration for
non-connected usage.

And perception that those addresses are up for grabs, either for using
on RFC1918 networks for NAT, or for insisting that internet registry
allocations be recalled and those resources put towards use by
connected networks......

If you do have such an unconnected network, it may be prudent to have
a connected network as well, and announce all your space anyways (just
not route the addresses)

this is the arin vigilante cultural view of the world.  luckily, the
disease does not propagate sufficiently to cross oceans.

randy




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