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Re: Big Temporary Networks


From: Masatoshi Enomoto <masatoshi-e () is naist jp>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:03:29 +0900



Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>: 

Nick Hilliard wrote:

Thus, protocols heavily depending on broadcast/multicast, such
as ND, will suffer.

ok, you've trolled me enough to ask why ND is worse than ARP on a wavelan
network - in your humble opinion?

Because, with IPv4:

      1) broadcast/multicast from a STA attacked to an AP is
      actually unicast to the AP and reliably received by the
      AP (and relayed unreliably to other STAs). That is, a
      broadcast ARP request from the STA to the AP is reliably
      received by the AP.

      2) the AP knows MAC and IP addresses of STAs

      3) ARP and DHCP replies are usually unicast

ARP and DHCP usually work.

For an unusual case of ARP for other STAs, collisions do
increase initial latencies, but as refreshes are attempted
several times, there will be no latter latencies.

OTOH, IPv6 requires many multicast received by STAs: RA and NS
for DAD, for example.

Worse, minimum intervals of ND messages are often very large,
which means a lot of delay occurs when a message is lost.

                                                      Masataka Ohta


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