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Re: Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed


From: Michiel Klaver <michiel () klaver it>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:00:53 +0200

As mentioned before, check the mail-logs at your webserver, you'll find this
"authentication required" message logged there as response to the hotmail
servers trying to relay mail to that webserver.


At 23-10-2012 14:49, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
"authentication required" is a bizzarre error to return.

Does it go away if you actually turn off graylisting for hotmail?

On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Carlos M. Perez wrote:

Mike,

I think this is exactly what is going on.  The domains that are having
issues have greylisting on with the spam filtering service and are
hosted on a farm of hosting servers.  We have blocked port 25 on the
main hosting IP of the web server, and moved the built in mail server to
listen on another IP.  This appears to be working, or at least has been
for almost 12 hours.

The real question is why is hotmail/live the only system that apparently
does this; which seems to be in contradiction to RFC, and how everyone
else does it.  The one thing that MS chooses to be different with...

Thanks,

Carlos M. Perez
Runcentral, LLC

On 10/23/2012 4:28 AM, Michiel Klaver wrote:
Carlos,

check the mail logs of your web-server, your domain might have a primary
A-record pointing to something different than MX-records. When the MX
servers do something like greylisting and bounce with a temp-code (4xx)
hotmail servers will try alternative records (like @ IN A) and might
find a
listening mail-daemon at your webserver.


At 23-10-2012 00:16, Carlos M. Perez wrote:
Hi,

We're trying to resolve some delivery issues reported by hotmail users.
Started happening a few weeks ago.  Getting immediate NDRs, and the
server that is supposed to receive the email has no records of
attempts.  The messages also don't match what the receiving server
should be sending.  The server(s) listed in the MX should receive all
email without authentication, since it's a mail filtering service
(Maxmail)

=
Reporting-MTA: dns;snt0-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com
Received-From-MTA: dns;SNT133-W53
Arrival-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:09:49 -0700

Final-Recipient: rfc822;administrator () xxxx com <javascript:;>
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.0
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 authentication required
=

Kindly contact me off-list.

Thanks,















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