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Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.
From: George Herbert <george.herbert () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:14:10 -0800
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com> wrote:
ISPs also do not "allow strangers to do whatever they want" ISPs have responsibilities to act on DCMA notices and CALEA requests from law enforcement. These are things that Tor exit nodes are not capable of doing. If you were an ISP and could not respond to CALEA requests, you will find yourself out of business in a big hurry.
Sure, Tor exit nodes are 'capable of doing' those things if a report is generated that someone's using it to source child porn or terrorist communications or DMCA violations. At the most extreme the owner can shut down a node; they might also put egress filters in place pursuant to notifications. Plenty of small ISPs in one sense or another don't comply with CALEA because they own systems not networks (open access sites, etc). CALEA goes to the network providers in those cases, as I understand it. The Tor owner also might chose to fight it and leave it completely open, but an ISP might chose to do that in response to certain notices as well. This presumes that law enforcement deems them the right place to go investigating an incident, and notifies them. But if they seem to be aware of what Tor is in the US and be generally reasonable in responding to issues with it, that I know of. -- -george william herbert george.herbert () gmail com
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- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law (Nov 29)
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- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law (Nov 29)
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- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. Naslund, Steve (Nov 29)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. George Herbert (Nov 29)
- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. Naslund, Steve (Nov 29)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. George Herbert (Nov 29)
- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. Naslund, Steve (Nov 29)
- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law (Nov 29)
- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. Naslund, Steve (Nov 30)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can. Will Hargrave (Nov 29)
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