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Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications"....
From: Andrew Sullivan <asullivan () dyn com>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:24:57 -0500
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 09:04:56PM -0800, Michael Thomas wrote:
Let's be clear: nobody sets up a VPN because they want to.
And further, only people who think cell phones are newfangled think that "configuring dial-up before ppp was available" is a test we can apply to _anything_ for the quality "being easy". If any of us seriously thinks that "set up VPN", "configure dial-up by hand", or any other such "easy" things are the bar we have to jump, we are doomed. Big Fat Checkbox that says "Disable Old-Fashioned Network" is about the level we can expect. Past that, forget it. Too much work. Too risky. Boss won't authorize the time. The question upthread about costs is dead on. One of those costs is, "How much do I need to think?" If the answer is, "Oh, just set up a tunnel," the fish is already off the hook and in another river. If your response to that is, "I've been an application developer, and they need to be more responsible," I would like to know your company's stock symbol so I may bet against you. Best, A -- Andrew Sullivan Dyn Labs asullivan () dyn com
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- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications"...., (continued)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Owen DeLong (Nov 28)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Dobbins, Roland (Nov 30)
- Remaining IPv6 hurdles (Was: Programmers...) Jeroen Massar (Nov 30)
- Re: Remaining IPv6 hurdles (Was: Programmers...) Dobbins, Roland (Nov 30)
- Re: Remaining IPv6 hurdles (Was: Programmers...) Randy Bush (Nov 30)
- Re: Remaining IPv6 hurdles (Was: Programmers...) Dobbins, Roland (Nov 30)
- RE: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Naslund, Steve (Nov 30)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Dobbins, Roland (Nov 30)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Mark Andrews (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Michael Thomas (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Andrew Sullivan (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Dobbins, Roland (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Nigel Stepp (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Dobbins, Roland (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Owen DeLong (Nov 27)
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- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Tim Chown (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Michael Thomas (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Bjørn Mork (Nov 28)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Dobbins, Roland (Nov 28)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Bjørn Mork (Nov 28)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Dobbins, Roland (Nov 28)