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Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications"....
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:29:45 -0500
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org> wrote:
I cannot be saf for the people who claim to be programmers who do things with networking and who do not care to follow the heavy hints that they have been getting for at least the last 10 years that their applications need to start supporting IPv6.
Your lack of sorrow is immaterial to the programmers in question. And in the vast majority of cases the network is incidental to their software's role. The network is the tool not the product. They'll use the available tool.
As for actually getting IPv6 at home or at work, there are so many ways to get that, thus not having it is a completely ridiculous excuse.
At home sure. If they're willing to go to a little bit of effort they can have a tunnel. At work, few programmers have any control whatsoever over the available network resources in their development environment. Heck, most count it a win if they can get corporate IT to disable realtime virus checking in the compile tree so that they can compile an application in a reasonable length of time. Control fine details of the network environment? You must kidding.
(It might not be native, so wh00p, you can test fine also on a local link in the extreme case)
You know better. You can't test worth sh*t without a real network connection with hosts on the other side that do things you weren't expecting.
As such, if an application does not do proper IPv6 today the people in charge of the thing simply did not care...
did not care = true simply = false Deciding which of the nice-to-haves you're just not going to care about is rarely a simple question. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications"...., (continued)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Steve Clark (Nov 30)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Randy (Nov 30)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... William Herrin (Nov 30)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Mark Andrews (Nov 30)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... William Herrin (Nov 30)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... William Herrin (Nov 30)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Owen DeLong (Nov 30)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Mark Andrews (Nov 29)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Michael Thomas (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... William Herrin (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Mark Andrews (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... William Herrin (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... david peahi (Nov 28)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 28)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Ingo Flaschberger (Nov 28)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Owen DeLong (Nov 28)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Michael Thomas (Nov 28)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... William Herrin (Nov 29)
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