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Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration
From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:52:30 +0000
2013 - the year of the NAT. (the only way a single stacked address family is going to be able to talk to a single stacked member of a different address family... and unless we start agressive reuse of v4, this will happen sooner than later (dual-stack is rate limited to the smaller of the address families -UNLESS- NAT makes reuse possible... :) But since NAT is going to be required -anyway-.... 2013 will be the year of the NAT. /bill On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 06:32:27AM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Dobbins, Roland wrote:Yet everyone (except you) insist that it does work with everything, and that all this CGN and 444 stuff and 644 stuff isn't necessary, and that I'm a fool for doubting all these (to me) wildly overoptimistic assertions about the coming ubiquity of native IPv6, end-to-end, heh.Dual stack works with "everything". IPv6 only access does not (with 464XLAT it might). However, people are complaining that operators are focusing more on CGN and NAT44(4) than they are on IPv6. Which I can understand, but I believe we're getting closer to getting out of the dead lock. My hope is that 2013 is going to be the year we're going to see widespread IPv6 (dual stack) adoption on mobile devices outside of the US. It's looking good so far. People are advocating dual stack now (at least that's what I do), for a future goal of IPv6 only. The main problem with IPv6 only is that most app developers (most programmers totally) do not really have access to this, so no testing is being done. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration, (continued)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 27)
- RE: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Lee Howard (Nov 27)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Carsten Bormann (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Joe Maimon (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration bmanning (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Mark Andrews (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration mike (Nov 27)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Mark Andrews (Nov 27)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Michael Thomas (Nov 27)
- "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Jeroen Massar (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Joseph Holsten (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Bryan Tong (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Jared Mauch (Nov 27)
- Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications".... Owen DeLong (Nov 27)