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Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
From: Eugen Leitl <eugen () leitl org>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:20:43 +0100
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:56:52PM -0200, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
Just for redundancy's sake: No, L3 is **not** the place for this kind of information. L3 is supposed to be simple, easy to implement, fast to
I agree. You need to put it into L2, and the core usage would be for wireless meshes. Consider cases like Serval or cjdns, which run on Android headsets and equivalent embeddeds. Technically you wouldn't need GPS everywhere if you could do ~m scale time domain reflectometry in free space. It is possible to build a local contiguous map via mutual time of flight triangulation (actually, just visibility gives you a very good hint). Another such application could be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Data_Relay_Satellite (the realtime precision tracking problem has been solved recently).
switch. In Spanish we have a very strong adjective for this kind of ideas: "pésimo". I couldn't find a similar one in English without using foul words :-) In any case, and as it already has been pointed out, I can imagine an upper layer protocol, similar to NTP that reports GPS coordinates. Come to think of it, if NTP could be extended this would fit in nicely as there are already lots of NTP nodes which already have GPS sensors.
Can you see any good uses for this? Area fencing, for games, maybe. I don't see why you couldn't just bind gpsd to port on a public IP, same as GPS sharing over WLAN tethering is done. So it's basically a solved problem, no need for RFC drafts.
Additionally, unless the proponents of this idea are expecting every router manufacturer to build GPS chips into their gear and us datacentre operators to drill holes on our roofs for the antennas, I don't see any
Some routers *are* already on the roofs. Or on towers. Or in LEO. Visibility is pretty good once you're above few 10 km, and weather is just perfect in orbit. The only storms are of the proton particle variety.
real useful role for this extension header.
Current thread:
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header, (continued)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Eugen Leitl (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Jimmy Hess (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header John Adams (Nov 25)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Network IPdog (Nov 25)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Randy (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Eugen Leitl (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Alex (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Jimmy Hess (Nov 26)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Mohacsi Janos (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Carlos M. Martinez (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Eugen Leitl (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header William Herrin (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Harald Koch (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Eugen Leitl (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header William Herrin (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header George Herbert (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header George Herbert (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Christopher Rogers (Nov 25)