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Re: Whats so difficult about ISSU
From: Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:32:44 -0600
On 11/11/12, Miquel van Smoorenburg <mikevs () xs4all net> wrote:
Which isn't really a problem, none of the control plane stuff needs to run in the kernel. The only thing that needs to run in the kernel is the device driver(s) to talk to the forwarding plane
Yes. But avoiding kernel mode is a consideration, even before GPL. Perhaps GPL is just another force to discourage developers from doing what they shouldn't be doing anyways -- which is to insert complicated code in the kernel itself to do application-specific things, instead of providing hardware interfaces for applications. You introduce risks if you run control plane things in kernel mode ring0 and not separate control plane functions into user processes. Risks that buggy code will be executed with privilege and corrupt critical data. Risks that a buffer overflow in the SNMP code will crash the kernel and cause the entire control unit to reboot. If instead, each control function is a separate user process, running without privilege in protected mode, then you have a larger amount of fault isolation provided by the hardware -- restart the SNMP process automatically, but leave ISISd/Bgpd alone, and no kernel panic...
hardware, but if you use ethernet or infiniband for that communication you don't need any proprietary drivers.
Mike.
-- -JH
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