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Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable
From: Michael J Wise <mjwise () kapu net>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 22:07:52 -0700
On May 22, 2012, at 9:10 PM, bmanning () vacation karoshi com wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:52:52PM -0700, Michael J Wise wrote:On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Randy Bush wrote:father of bind? that's news.<http://boingboing.net/2012/03/29/paul-vixies-firsthand-accoun.html> He was there, and Put The Fix In, to down the network.Certainly news to Phil Almquist and the entire BIND development team at UCB. Paul was at DECWRL and cut his teeth on pre-existing code. While he (and ISC) have since revised, gutted, tossed all the orginal code, rebuilt it twice - and others have done similar for their DNS software, based on the BIND code base, implementation assumptions, and with little or no ISC code, and they call it BIND as well, it would be a HUGE leap of faith to call Paul Vixie the father of BIND - The Berkeley Internet Naming Daemon.
Methinks we're talking at cross purposes.
As for being there and "Put The Fix In"... Makes for great PR but in actual fact, its a bandaid that is not going to stem the tide. An actual fix would really need to change the nature of the creaky 1980's implementation artifacts that this community loves so well.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing at all. Paul was there to shut down the DNS changer system and replace it with something that restored functionality to the infected machines. And I gather Paul will be one of the people who will turn the lights out on it. Your other comments are non-sequitur to the main issue. When those servers are turned off, Customer Support folks at many ISPs will prolly want to take their accrued vacation. Aloha, Michael. -- "Please have your Internet License and Usenet Registration handy..."
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- Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Henry Linneweh (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Randy Bush (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Michael J Wise (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable bmanning (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Randy Bush (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Michael J Wise (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable bmanning (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Randy Bush (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Michael J Wise (May 22)
- Re: Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable nanog (May 23)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Michael J Wise (May 23)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Michael J Wise (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Randy Bush (May 22)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Eric Brunner-Williams (May 23)
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- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable Christopher Morrow (May 23)
- Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable bmanning (May 23)
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