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Re: Force10 E Series at the edge?
From: Brant Ian Stevens <branto () networking-architecture com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:46:32 -0400
Brant Ian Stevens <mailto:branto () argentiumsolutions com> March 28, 2012 11:41 AMThe CER is the perfect box for this application, save for the redundant processors. The MLXe will work great if you want a small form factor and redundant processors.-Brant George Bonser <mailto:gbonser () seven com> March 28, 2012 11:34 AMI have been using a pair of CER (but not the -RT) at one location for a while now and so far have been flawless. These particular units aren't taking full tables so don't need the -RT but I wouldn't have any trouble using them. The -RT are basically a 1U XMR.Tom Daly <mailto:tom () dyn com> March 27, 2012 11:59 PM Brent, Your options include, for smaller boxes:- Brocade CER series, but make sure you the -RT versions due to RAM (haven't tried, though)- Juniper MX (MX80 is working well for us) - Cisco ASR1006 (heard a lot about BGP price issues) But for 300mb/sec, what not OpenBSD + Quagga? Tom ----- Original Message ----- Jo Rhett <mailto:jrhett () netconsonance com> March 27, 2012 6:00 PMI was very happy with the E300 as a data center core switch handling multiple full feeds (around 15) with about 10x the traffic you are talking about. The only problem I had was that Force10 didn't have a useful (basically forklift) upgrade to get more IPv4 prefixes, and the more I talked to them and the more I showed them the graphs demonstrating what we'd need for prefix space assuming even the most conservative assumptions at depletion, the more I realized they really Did Not Get It. In fact, their brand new architecture recently announced had only 500k prefixes allowed, at a time that the Juniper MX platform handled 2million easily.So I would be fine using Force10 again, given the following changes: 1. Large limits on IP prefixes allowed2. Reallocation of useless memory from stupid things like MAC tables to prefixes (data centers have very few MACs, very many prefixes)3. Command line loggingThe units worked great at failover, never had any problems gracefully failing over from one RP to another, but if you have to cold boot them for any reason it takes like 5 minutes :(
Current thread:
- FW: Force10 E Series at the edge? Roberts, Brent (Mar 27)
- Re: FW: Force10 E Series at the edge? james jones (Mar 27)
- Re: Force10 E Series at the edge? Jo Rhett (Mar 27)
- Re: Force10 E Series at the edge? Tom Daly (Mar 27)
- Re: Force10 E Series at the edge? Randy (Mar 27)
- Re: Force10 E Series at the edge? Owen DeLong (Mar 28)
- RE: Force10 E Series at the edge? George Bonser (Mar 28)
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- Re: Force10 E Series at the edge? Brant Ian Stevens (Mar 28)
- Re: Force10 E Series at the edge? Tom Daly (Mar 27)