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Re: Muni Fiber
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:25:04 -0400
Charles Gucker wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Frank Bulk<frnkblk () iname com> wrote:I don't think a muni can prevent the ILEC from installing fiber in their RoW....First off, IANAL, Secondly, I've had a reasonable amount of experience with Village and Municipal Law. In short, the statement above is incorrect, in so much that the RoW is not that of the ILEC, but rather the ILEC's ability to use the Muni's RoW. So, if the Municipality wanted to prevent the ILEC, or any company with RoW use rights, they certainly can. Unfortunately, a lot of the terms of the arrangement between the Municipalities and Telco's were written back in the 20's and 30's. So, the "restriction" would have to be put into terms of that agreement. But in the end, it's up to the Municipality to set the guidelines (as with any local law) within the borders of their Municipality.
(Talking US only...)Guess you weren't around when the Telecom Act hit... "you mean anybody who wants to can dig up our streets to lay cable???!!!!" And today's cable franchising exercises have become almost a joke - given the restrictions implied by Federal and State laws.
Re. terms that were "written in the 20s and 30s"... where it gets really interesting are places like Texas, where there are perpetual ROW grants that predate statehood, and can not be rewritten or renegotiated. Also some interesting legacies from ROW grants associated with building the transcontinental railroads (e.g., the City of Abilene, TX has to pay the Southern Pacific Railroad, or its successor, to run fiber along underpasses where their tracks bisect the City).
-- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
Current thread:
- Re: Muni Fiber, (continued)
- Re: Muni Fiber Owen DeLong (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber Masataka Ohta (Mar 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber Jay Ashworth (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber Ray Soucy (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber Jay Ashworth (Mar 26)
- RE: Muni Fiber Frank Bulk (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber Charles Gucker (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber Fletcher Kittredge (Mar 28)
- Re: Muni Fiber William Herrin (Mar 28)
- Re: Muni Fiber Miles Fidelman (Mar 28)
- Re: Muni Fiber Miles Fidelman (Mar 28)
- Re: Muni Fiber Jay Ashworth (Mar 28)
- Re: Muni Fiber Miles Fidelman (Mar 28)
- RE: Muni Fiber Frank Bulk (Mar 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber Masataka Ohta (Mar 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber Jared Mauch (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber Masataka Ohta (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber Jared Mauch (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) JC Dill (Mar 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Jacob Broussard (Mar 26)