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Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc)
From: Ray Soucy <rps () maine edu>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:41:26 -0400
Ignoring the fact that we haven't reached our limits with fiber yet ... If you're talking broadband, I think it's pretty reasonable to suggest that a fiber plant will last 20 years with minor maintenance just given the history of how long we've used copper. When its 2012 and you have people who are still on DSL with 768K "broadband", it's nice to toss around the theory that technology moves fast and that 20 years from now everyone will have Terabit to the home over wireless, but I really don't see it. Back in the 90s I was sure everyone would have 100M to the home by now. The next major speed boost for broadband will be over fiber. And because the bottleneck at that point becomes equipment, we'll continue to see a healthy round of upgrades in speed over the same fiber plant. If people got serious about FTTH, I think a _very_ optimistic timeline would be something like: 2015 - First communities coming online, 100M to the home (probably Gigabit line rate, but throttled). 2020 - Gigabit to the home starting to become common 2030 - Gigabit to the home "typical" 2035 - 10G to the home starting to become common 2040 - Newer optics require better fiber for back haul, minor upgrades to middle-mile needed to push speeds. 2050 - People finally agree to invest in those upgrades after "suffering" 10 years of "only" 10G to the home. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:45 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Jacob Broussard <shadowedstrangerlists () gmail com> wrote:Who knows what technology will be like in 5-10 years? That's the whole point of what he was trying to say. Maybe wireless carriers will use visible wavelength lasers to recievers on top of customer's houses forallwe know. 10 years is a LONG time for tech, and anything can happen.Hi Jacob, The scientists doing the basic research now know. It's referred to as the "technology pipeline." When someone says, "that's in the pipeline" they mean that the basic science has been discovered to make something possible and now engineers are in the process of figuring out how to make it _viable_. The pipeline tends to be 5 to 10 years long, so basic science researchers are making the discoveries *now* which will be reflected in deployed technologies 10 years from now. There is *nothing* promising in the pipeline for wireless tech that has any real chance of leading to a wide scale replacement for fiber optic cable. *Nothing.* Which means that in 10 years, wireless will be better, faster and cheaper but it won't have made significant inroads replacing fiber to the home and business. 20 years is a long time. 10 years, not so much. Even for the long times, we can find the future by examining the past. The duration of use of the predecessor technology (twisted pair) was about 50 years ubiquitously deployed to homes. From that we can make an educated guess about the current one (fiber). Fiber to the home started about 10 years ago leaving about 40 more before something better might replace it. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
-- Ray Soucy Epic Communications Specialist Phone: +1 (207) 561-3526 Networkmaine, a Unit of the University of Maine System http://www.networkmaine.net/
Current thread:
- Re: Muni Fiber, (continued)
- Re: Muni Fiber Miles Fidelman (Mar 28)
- RE: Muni Fiber Frank Bulk (Mar 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber Masataka Ohta (Mar 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber Jared Mauch (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber Masataka Ohta (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber Jared Mauch (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) JC Dill (Mar 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Jacob Broussard (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) William Herrin (Mar 26)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Ray Soucy (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber Miles Fidelman (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber Ray Soucy (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber Jared Mauch (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber Leo Bicknell (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber William Herrin (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Jay Ashworth (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Alexander Harrowell (Mar 27)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Anurag Bhatia (Mar 28)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Jacob Broussard (Mar 28)
- Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc) Anurag Bhatia (Mar 29)