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Re: French Regulator to ask all your information about your Peering


From: Raphael MAUNIER <rmaunier () neotelecoms com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:12:25 +0000



On Mar 30, 2012, at 23:46, "Fredy Kuenzler" <kuenzler () init7 net> wrote:

Am 30.03.2012 23:20, schrieb Raphael MAUNIER:
Sorry Fredy, but you are living in a care bear world ?

Do you think some people build an intense national backbone

You were @GPF last week, when Martin asked : Who want this to be
regulated ? And Who want to have his peering controled ? why you didn't
raise your hand ?

In my memory, no one did.

I didn't get my peering with France Telecom, so I get in touch with them
and I have a fair contrat and I have a good backbone quality. In my
market, I need for now direct access to them, and that's life.

My business is not made on the "wishes" to have free peering with my
incumbent.

I'm not saying I want this regulated, in fact I prefer to have it as it is
and keep authorities out of the game. That's why I didn't raise my hand.

But: Fact is that competition commissions and regulators are investigating
against incumbents and such. They could have avoided this easily if they
would have been more cooperative and keep their policy less restrictive. I
don't blame anyone who is filing against someone who is abusing market power.

Now, obviously, the French regulator sees the trouble and trys to understand
and 'regulate' it the way they do it usually. From our perspective certainly
not a good way, but why blaming the regulator? Blame those which made it all
happen! Read: the restrictive incumbents which put obstacles in the way of
everyone else.

I respect your position, but I'm not buying it. Those issue are the result of cheap transit provider trying to abuse 
their peers by selling a cheap ip transit and force the incumbent to upgrade.
That's exactly the start of all of this.


You've choosen to pay to get obstacles away. Others prefer to call the
court. And probably the majority suffers in silence, especially the
countless broadband users which actually pay our salaries and make our
industry happening.

I came to see my incumbent to talk to them and really explain what I'm doing, I spent time to explain and get their 
points and I had some very good discussion about backbone and cost for a big eyeball ... 
They told me : no one came to us to really understand what are really the "global cost" even the French regulator !
So I still don't buy it !

Regulators should primarily care about those, and
therefore it's good that the French regulator actually made a move, however
arguably in the wrong direction.

That's my point here. We are on the same line.

F.



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