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Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work?
From: Nick Hilliard <nick () foobar org>
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:33:05 +0100
On 03/07/2012 18:59, Saku Ytti wrote:
Leap bugs are NOT known. Most people have no idea unixtime is not monotonically increasing. I had no idea myself until sunday, I had assumed we really go 59 -> 60 -> 00, but we go 59 -> 59 -> 00. So 59.1 can happen before or after 59.2. To me this is fundamentally and inherently broken.
Well, yeah, it's not obvious that a minute can have anywhere between 59 and 62 seconds. Certainly if POSIX were being redesigned, they ought to consider using libtai. Google's approach to this is interesting:
http://googleblog.blogspot.ie/2011/09/time-technology-and-leaping-seconds.html
i.e. controlled clock slew until the correct offset is reached, thereby allowing their developers to assume a monotonic system clock. Nick
Current thread:
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work?, (continued)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Jimmy Hess (Jul 04)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Steve Allen (Jul 04)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Scott Howard (Jul 04)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Dave Hart (Jul 05)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Peter Lothberg (Jul 05)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Saku Ytti (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? valdis . kletnieks (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Saku Ytti (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Owen DeLong (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Saku Ytti (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Nick Hilliard (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Saku Ytti (Jul 03)
- RE: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Keith Medcalf (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Tony Finch (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Owen DeLong (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Saku Ytti (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Peter Lothberg (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Peter Lothberg (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Tony Finch (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Owen DeLong (Jul 03)
- Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work? Chris Adams (Jul 03)