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Re: In search of uplink vendor
From: JC Dill <jcdill.lists () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:56:38 -0800
On 12/01/12 12:18 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: "Network IP Dog"<network.ipdog () gmail com> Isn't this Internet censorship?Repeat after me: It's not censorship unless it's imposed by a government.
The wikipedia definition seems more accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship" *Censorship* is the suppression of speech or other public communication which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient to the general body of people as determined by a government, media outlet, or other controlling body."
The key aspect that makes something censorship is that you can't easily get around the block by the "controlling body". Obviously, if you do it yourself or ask someone to do it for you (e.g. ask your upstream to filter) it's not censorship. If it's done by someone else, you have no say in the matter and no (easy and/or legal) opportunity to avoid the filtering, then it's censorship.
If Comcast or AT&T decided to filter/block requested data from reaching their customers (e.g. access to .xxx sites, access to torrents), we would all agree that this was censorship.
jc
Current thread:
- Re: In search of uplink vendor, (continued)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor bmanning (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor Justin M. Streiner (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor bmanning (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor Leo Bicknell (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor Christopher Morrow (Jan 12)
- RE: In search of uplink vendor Network IP Dog (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor Leo Bicknell (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor bmanning (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor Jay Ashworth (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor JC Dill (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor bmanning (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor bmanning (Jan 12)
- Re: In search of uplink vendor Jay Ashworth (Jan 12)