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Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:07:26 +0900
Neil Harris wrote:
I'm not a flag-waver for IDN, so much as a proponent of ways to make IDN safer, given that it already exists.
It's like trying to make DES safer.
Lots of people have thought about this quite carefully.
Not at all. They (including some Japanese) just wished IDN work ignoring technical reality.
See RFC 4290 for a technical discussion of the thinking behind this policy,
Technically speaking, there are several sets of frequently used different but similar Japanese characters most people do not distinguish so vigorously. For example, "Sai" of "Saitoh", the tenth most frequent Japanese family name, is represented by 4 similar but different characters, which is distinguished by people named "Saitoh" but not distinguished by most others, which means phishing is unavoidable. That is, RFC4290 covering such Japanese characters is not technical from the beginning.
and RFC 5992 for a policy mechanism designed to resolve the problem you raised in your example above.
It is nothing more than a political statement, because there is no reasonable way to use tables in Appendix A.
You will notice that the .com domain does not appear on the Mozilla IDN whitelist.
Which means IDN can not be "Internationalized" at all and selling IDN is nothing more than a fraud. Masataka Ohta
Current thread:
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing, (continued)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing John R. Levine (Feb 12)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Jeff Kell (Feb 12)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Masataka Ohta (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Neil Harris (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Joel jaeggli (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing David Conrad (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Masataka Ohta (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Masataka Ohta (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Adrian (Feb 10)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 10)
- RE: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Vinny_Abello (Feb 10)
- RE: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Keith Medcalf (Feb 11)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Vinny Abello (Feb 12)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Rich Kulawiec (Feb 12)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Feb 12)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Feb 12)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing John Levine (Feb 12)
- Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing Vinny Abello (Feb 12)