nanog mailing list archives
Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:35:48 -0500
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:32:01 +0000, Brian Johnson said:
This is a misleading statement. ISP's (Common carriers) do not provide a knowingly illegal offering, ... TOR exit/entrance nodes provide only the former.
This is also a misleading statement. Explain the difference between a consumer ISP selling you a cable Internet plan knowing that NN% of the traffic will be data with questionable copyright status, and 1 of of 5 or so will be a botted box doing other illegal stuff, and a TOR node providing transit knowing that NN% will be similarly questionable etc etc etc. In other words, if TOR exit nodes provide a "knowingly illegal offering", then Comcast is doing exactly the same thing... (Also, feel free to cite actual statute or case law that says TOR is by *definition* or finding of fact, a "knowingly illegal offering" in and of itself - distinct from what uses the user thereof may do with it. Absent that, it's not a "knowingly illegal offering" the same way that some sites have ended up in court for contributory copyright infringement.)
Attachment:
_bin
Description:
Current thread:
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if, (continued)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Jordan Michaels (Dec 04)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Nick B (Dec 04)
- Re: Six Strike Rule (Was: William was raided...) Jeroen Massar (Dec 04)
- Re: Six Strike Rule (Was: William was raided...) Jason Baugher (Dec 04)
- Re: Six Strike Rule (Was: William was raided...) Joly MacFie (Dec 04)
- Re: Six Strike Rule (Was: William was raided...) Owen DeLong (Dec 04)
- Re: Six Strike Rule (Was: William was raided...) Barry Shein (Dec 05)
- RE: Six Strike Rule (Was: William was raided...) Naslund, Steve (Dec 06)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Jean-Francois Mezei (Dec 04)
- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Brian Johnson (Dec 04)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 04)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Joe Greco (Dec 04)
- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Brian Johnson (Dec 04)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Joe Greco (Dec 04)
- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Brian Johnson (Dec 04)
- RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Naslund, Steve (Dec 04)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Jutta Zalud (Dec 04)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Jimmy Hess (Dec 05)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Owen DeLong (Dec 05)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Jean-Francois Mezei (Dec 05)
- Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if Joe Greco (Dec 05)