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Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:07:15 -0400
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:13:57 EDT, Dorn Hetzel said:
"full time connection to two or more providers" should be satisfied when the network involved has (or has contracted for and will have) two or more connections that are diverse from each other at ANY point in their path between the end network location or locations and the far end BGP peers,
I'm reading your statement as if you got the logic backwards - because this doesn't rule out "pipe from one provider and tunnel across same pipe to another provider, because the tunnel is diverse after it emerges from the first provider's pipe. But since you know *up front* that the two connections have fate sharing, it's not clear that it's "good enough" multihoming to count as two *real* full time connections.
points of failure, as long as their are any failure modes for which one connection can provide protection against that failure mode somewhere in the other connection.
As long as there is *A* failure mode? Hmm. <invents a movie-plot failure mode involving crazed ninjas with katanas loose in a switch room at one provider>. Yep, it's unlikely crazed ninjas will attack the switch rooms at both providers. I'm pretty sure what you intended to say there isn't what I read it as...
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- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Dorn Hetzel (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Charles N Wyble (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Owen DeLong (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Dorn Hetzel (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Seth Mattinen (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Owen DeLong (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Chris Adams (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Dorn Hetzel (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 20)
- What's a reasonable attack surface? (was: Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper yada yada) Jay Ashworth (Sep 20)
- Re: What's a reasonable attack surface? (was: Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper yada yada) Keegan Holley (Sep 21)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Brett Frankenberger (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Dorn Hetzel (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Owen DeLong (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Matthew Kaufman (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network -- ENOUGH ALREADY! Bill P (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network -- ENOUGH ALREADY! Bret Palsson (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network -- ENOUGH ALREADY! Charles N Wyble (Sep 21)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Jon Lewis (Sep 20)