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Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network
From: Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:29:58 -0700
On 9/18/11 1:08 PM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
On Sep 18, 2011, at 15:51, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:I'm told of others that have bought legacy IPv4 prefixes with no intention of updating whois at this time - no desire to enter into a relationship with ARIN and be subjected to existing "policy", for instance.so your point is that your friends at depository.com will be attractive to ip address space buyers because they will offer a less religious rsa. and the question is whether the ops community will believe their whois and install a separate rpki trust root for them?For instance, yes. I'm also wondering if the ops community will accept other sources of proof such as legal documents (or something else?), in lieu of Whois records from an RIR, Depository, or elsewhere.
I wouldn't embrace abandoning whois. Its usefulness is far more than just the prefix "owner" and their ISP. In fact, you may end up with a registry of these as the new bogon space that everyone should filter. If I saw abuse or other garbage from some block that did not exist in whois, I'm not going to care to go search for some BS legal document to find out who the responsible party is. Or worse, I find it and the involved parties claim it's privileged information and refuse to disclose it. ~Seth
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- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network, (continued)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Randy Bush (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network John Curran (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Randy Bush (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Benson Schliesser (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Randy Bush (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Benson Schliesser (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Randy Bush (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Benson Schliesser (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Cameron Byrne (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 19)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Seth Mattinen (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network John Curran (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Randy Bush (Sep 19)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network John Curran (Sep 19)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network John Curran (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Benson Schliesser (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network John Curran (Sep 19)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Paul Vixie (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Benson Schliesser (Sep 20)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Paul Vixie (Sep 22)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Benson Schliesser (Sep 22)