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Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ?
From: Ray Soucy <rps () maine edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:57:50 -0400
Saying NANOG = ARIN is like saying Middle East = Terrorist. That kind of generalization is never useful. ARIN is one of many non-Government organizations that make decisions regarding the Internet. As for your reference to "Obama-style" I'm not sure if you're trying to pay homage to, or insult the POTUS, either way it's not piratically constructive to the conversation; especially on a technical mailing list. Please check politics at the door. As mentioned by several others, if you have a problem with changes made by ARIN, an independent non-profit corporation, then it seems logical to contact them and not a community of network operators who have little or no control over ARIN. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Always Learning <nanog () u61 u22 net> wrote:
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 20:07 -0700, Michael Sinatra wrote:Unfortunately, the original poster, against advice given to him, posted an insulting, jingoistic, inane, and even more derogatory version of his NANOG post, apparently in an effort to spur discussion. What was once a legitimate issue (and I agree one that needs to be addressed) now looks more like troll-bait. Unsurprisingly, nobody has responded.I was attempting to write in 'Obama-style'. I do make a perfectly valid point, perhaps oblivious to many North Americans who generally are insular, that the world does expect the Americans to do Internet things properly. Many North Americans appear not to understand the general world-wide attitude towards the USA. When something goes wrong at ARIN which affects American IPs, the world seems to blame the Americans. Although there is a clear distinction, certainly in my mind, between one rather small organisation and a state of circa 280 million, never-the-less the world generally blames the Americans. The only noticeable exception when the USA is not blamed for the faults and omissions of an American organisation is Micro$oft. Why does it take the concerns of an European to waken-up the Americans to the outstanding ARIN problem? Perhaps some of you can continue the campaign for the restoration of a basic North American WHOIS ? The rest of the world has a fully functioning WHOIS but not the USA (or Canada). My posting was never meant to be insulting or jingoistic or inane and certainly not derogatory. I was attempting to make those that can influence ARIN have some pride in presenting their country's achievements and services in the best possible way. Like it or not, the Americans run the Internet: Google (the world's biggest spying operation), Micro$oft, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, Ebay and their Paypal, Cisco etc. etc. and of course ARIN..... What was once a legitimate issue ....Remains "a legitimate issue" until ARIN resolves it, if ever. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU.
-- Ray Soucy Epic Communications Specialist Phone: +1 (207) 561-3526 Networkmaine, a Unit of the University of Maine System http://www.networkmaine.net/
Current thread:
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ?, (continued)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Jon Lewis (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Brandon Ewing (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Florian Weimer (Sep 16)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Always Learning (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Michael Sinatra (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Mark Kosters (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Randy Bush (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Jimmy Hess (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Michael Sinatra (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Always Learning (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Ray Soucy (Sep 16)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Randy Bush (Sep 16)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Ryan Gelobter (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? bmanning (Sep 12)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Christopher Morrow (Sep 15)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Randy Bush (Sep 15)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 16)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Randy Bush (Sep 16)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? John Curran (Sep 16)
- Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Randy Bush (Sep 16)
- RE: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ? Leigh Porter (Sep 16)