Re: Network device command line interfaces

[Mike McBride <mmcbride7 () gmail com>]

> Yes, don't buy the cheap stuff :)

Until we do, the other stuff remains expensive.

mike

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Phil Regnauld <regnauld () nsrc org> wrote:
> Jonathon Exley (Jonathon.Exley) writes:
> > However vendors of low cost routers/switches/muxes
>
>        Hi Jonathon, have you ever tried to work with a Catalyst Express 500 ?
>        A good example of a fully functional IOS device, where the vendor went
>        out of their way to disable Telnet/SSH, and force one to run CLI
>        commands via the a Web UI.  You can do everything, but even "vty 0 x"
>        and "transport input telnet" won't give access.
>
> > seem to take a stab in the dark and produce some really nasty stuff.
>
>        Cisco isn't exactly low cost, but the point here is exactly that:
>        take away CLI and tools that make automation easier, so that customers
>        will feel compelled to buy the more expensive stuff if they want
>        the fancy stuff (which, in this case, is actually LESS fancy).
>
>        It's not incompetence, it's called crippleware, and it's a business
>        model :)
>
> > Maybe the vendors need some sort
> > of best practices guide for what manageability features their kit
> > needs to support to make them acceptable to the market. Does anyone
> > know if there is anything along these lines?
>
>        Yes, don't buy the cheap stuff :)
>
>        Phil