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Re: Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company


From: Brandon Butterworth <brandon () rd bbc co uk>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 02:08:04 +0100 (BST)

You demonstrate you have no understanding of what the word 'feasable'
means.

OK, but we actually did this as a commercial service on analogue TV and
we deliver non picture data on digital TV (satellite and terrestrial)
today, it's just not USENET data.

One _cannot_ do this with 'modern' digital TV trasmission, because the
_end-to-end_ technolgy does not support it.

Apologies for disagreeing, but this is exactly what the modern
technology does.

Digital TV (ATSC in your case, DVB-T & DVB-S in our case) has a
multiplex of a number of independent data streams that can be data,
video or audio. That is carried end to end.

We do this now with other data -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Red_Button

It'd be trivial for us to display USENET directly to read on your TV
or deliver it to the STB ethernet port

OTOH, if the signal originates as a digital stream, while it may be
"possible" to multiplex in an additional data stream, said data stream
will *NOT* survive _intermediate_ transcoding to an analog video stream 
before transmission to the end-user.

Indeed but that is not a digital TV system.

And, even if the actual digital
stream is delivered to the end-user, a *STANDARD* digital TV receiver has
no means to deliver that 'additional' information to the end-user in any
usableform.

Standard DTV PVR with an ethernet port are a few hundred dollars.

For the people who would actually receive this the box cost is trivial
they just some software. If you have a USB or PCI DTV rx it is trivial
to do whatever you like with the data.

brandon






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