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Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space
From: Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 00:21:36 -0500
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> wrote:
However, many networks take active steps to assure that external parties cannot disrupt their internal network. Anyone on this list with
And many networks have implemented BCP38 and appropriate prefix filters + as path filters with their peers, including upstreams. Some networks take active steps. I think as a group you give them a little too much credit. I don't mean to speculate about what exactly Rogers is doing. Only that: if they just spontaneously decided to start using "7/8" on their internal network as unofficial space, they could be putting themselves at risk in unanticipated ways. Even with active protection against that particular risk, it is still possible the unofficial use will be harmful to the DoD some day, in some way, resulting in repercussions against the unofficial user.... If you want to use some other organization's IP addresses without their permission, for any purpose (internal or not); It seems like the DoD, military commands of other large countries, along with local law enforcement organizations should be at the very _bottom_ of the list; they have more extreme retaliation/investigative powers than any private company does.
internal prefixes shorter than /24 likely have filters or other mechanisms in place to ensure they do not hear a /24 of their own space from peers & transit providers. If they do not, then they are at risk, whether they use highjacked space or not.
-- -JH
Current thread:
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space, (continued)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Patrick W. Gilmore (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Cameron Byrne (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Cameron Byrne (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Mark Andrews (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space John Levine (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Kevin Oberman (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Mark Andrews (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Jimmy Hess (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Patrick W. Gilmore (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Jimmy Hess (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Cameron Byrne (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space David Conrad (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Owen DeLong (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Byron L. Hicks (May 24)
- RE: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Leigh Porter (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Byron L. Hicks (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Paul Graydon (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Cameron Byrne (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Brielle Bruns (May 24)