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Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 20:34:11 -0700
This is the business reality of the IPv4-scarce era. Diluted IPv4 is not new to many places and will become common in many more places. Furthermore, it is a calculated business risk. IPv4 services will/have become the 2nd class (NAT444...) services as IPv6 ascends to first class status with e2e restored and more and more services supporting IPv6 (World IPv6 day in a little over 2 week!...).
Diluted IPv4 is one thing. Hijacking space allocated to another entity is another. As long as they keep it contained within their network, it's pretty much up to them to break their own environment however they see fit, but, if they start leaking 7.0.0.0/8 or subset announcements on to the internet in general, I wouldn't want to be them or one of the companies that was accepting their routes.
Don't get me wrong, IPv6 has a long way to go in terms of availability, peering, and application support. But make no mistake, the tide is turning. Rogers is doing what they have to do proactively to stay ahead of the curve of complete exhaustion.
I don't think they have to hijack space from DoD. I think there are a number of other options available to them. They might cost more, but, they also come with somewhat lower risks. Owen
Current thread:
- Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Mark Farina (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space David Conrad (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Owen DeLong (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Joel Jaeggli (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Mark Andrews (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Cameron Byrne (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Owen DeLong (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Christopher Morrow (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Patrick W. Gilmore (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Cameron Byrne (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Cameron Byrne (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Mark Andrews (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space John Levine (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Kevin Oberman (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Mark Andrews (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Owen DeLong (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Jimmy Hess (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space David Conrad (May 23)