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Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone?
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:53:35 -0400
On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I think this is sadly the truth. There are some problems that can be solved by multicast, but I've seen the number of customer requests for v4 multicast go by the wayside over the years. The only people that are generally interested are the conference venues for technical things, e.g.: RIPE, ARIN/NANOG, APRICOT, etc. Plus, conferences like NANOG have beamed the video back to some other site for fanout as well, for both unicast and multicast. The problems at Layer7 and below are solvable with market forces. They're all 8/9 issues, about the content providers wanting to be paid-per-subscriber/viewer. They don't want to know how few people are actually tuned in at that moment in some cases. I'm sure they want to be paid some fraction of that cost that goes to your TV Transport conduit provider.
I'm not at all certain that this is a political problem. I believe it is more of a user need / want problem (which I guess you could classify as "layer > 7" if you want). The occasional large live "event" - and when I say occasional, I mean not a few per year - likely could be helped if there were a magic wand to wave which made multicast work for no CapEx or OpEx and perfectly billed. But the vast majority of traffic cannot be served by multi-cast. The real cost of multi-cast (when it works at all!) may be too great for the small benefit, even ignoring the billing mechanism. People's proclivities change. As a vendor / supplier / company who gets paid, we have to adjust to the wishes of the people paying us as best we can. Or someone else will. -- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? David Sparro (May 02)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Robert Bonomi (May 02)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Patrick W. Gilmore (May 02)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Leo Bicknell (May 02)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? George Bonser (May 02)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jay Ashworth (May 02)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jeff Young (May 03)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? George Bonser (May 03)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jeffrey S. Young (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jay Ashworth (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Tim Franklin (May 04)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Leigh Porter (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jeff Wheeler (May 04)