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Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol)
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:46:08 -0700
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:...IPv4 will never reach those figures. IPv6 isn't preferenced enough for that to happen and IPv6-only sites have methods of reaching IPv4 only sites (DS-Lite, NAT64/DNS64).I think you'll be surprised over time. Given the tendency of the internet to nearly double in size every 2 years or so, it only takes 7 cycles (about 15 years) for the existing network to become a single-digit percentage of the future network. OwenHm. With roughly 1B people on the internet today[0], 7 cycles of doubling would mean that in 15 years, we'd have 128B people on the internet?
Ah, but, today, we don't really have 1B people on the internet, we have about 10,000,000 people on the internet and about 990,000,000 people behind NAT boxes, so, in 7 cycles of doubling we'll be at 1,280,000,000 people on the internet. ;-)
I strongly suspect the historical growth curve will *not* continue at that pace.
Likely, but, I couldn't resist pointing out the reality above anyway. Even without the growth curves continuing, the IPv4 internet will become a relatively small fraction of the total internet in about 15 years. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol (Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day), (continued)
- Re: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol (Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day) Cameron Byrne (Jun 03)
- Re: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol (Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day) Jeroen Massar (Jun 03)
- Re: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol (Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day) Owen DeLong (Jun 03)
- Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Jeroen Massar (Jun 04)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Owen DeLong (Jun 04)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Jason Fesler (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Mark Andrews (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Owen DeLong (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Matthew Petach (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Jérôme Nicolle (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Owen DeLong (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Jérôme Nicolle (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Joly MacFie (Jun 07)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Mark Andrews (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Owen DeLong (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Mark Andrews (Jun 06)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Owen DeLong (Jun 07)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Dale W. Carder (Jun 07)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Mark Andrews (Jun 07)
- Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol) Neil Harris (Jun 07)
- Re: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol (Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day) Jeroen van Aart (Jun 06)