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Re: Is Cisco equpiment de facto for you?


From: "Thomas Donnelly" <tad1214 () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:36:24 -0600

On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:31:32 -0600, Brandon Kim <brandon.kim () brandontek com> wrote:


Hello gents:

I wanted to put this out there for all of you. Our network consists of a mixture of Cisco and Extreme equipment.

Would you say that it's fair to say that if you are serious at all about being a service provider that your core equipment is Cisco based?

Am I limiting myself by thinking that Cisco is the "de facto" vendor of choice? I'm not looking for so much "fanboy" responses, but more of a real world
experience of what you guys use that actually work and does the job.....

No technical questions here, just general feedback. I try to follow the Tolly Group who compares products, and they continually show that Cisco equipment is a poor performer in almost any equipment compared to others, I find that so hard to believe.....

Cisco is typically not known as the fastest or most power efficient when compared to other vendors, but they usually have some advanced feature sets that are very nice. In the ISP space this may be less helpful, but in the SMB and Enterprise space this can be very helpful. Things such as Call Manager Express, Web Content Filtering, WebEx Nodes, Server Load Balancing, Wireless Lan Controllers, etc. that are either built into IOS or available with a line card or module, are nice tools to have at your disposal, and often can mean reducing the number of devices you need in your rack.

As of the Tolly group, I find whomever pays Tolly for the survey tends to be the fastest.

Example:
Abstract:

HP commissioned Tolly to evaluate the performance, power consumption and TCO of its E5400 zl and E8200 switch series and compare those systems with the Cisco Systems Catalyst 3750-X and Catalyst 4500.

This is because the Vendor is getting to pick what they want to benchmark rather than the company benchmarking them. No one is going to choose tests that their product will lose in. There isn't much in the way of "Tom's Hardware Style" testing of enterprise gear to my knowledge.

Cisco gear is also known for long life, being very consistent, and high reliability. A walk through colos you will often see many many Cisco 12000's for those exact reasons.

I feel each vendor has its strong points, price/performance may not be Cisco's but Cisco's ease of configuration and feature sets, along with reliability are definitely notable.

-=Tom


Thanks!

Brandon

                                        


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