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Re: NIST IPv6 document


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:47:12 -0800



On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
And there are ways to mitigate ND attacks as well.

No, Owen, there aren't.  The necessary router knobs do not exist.  The
"Cisco approach" is currently to police NDP on a per-interface basis
(either with per-int or global configuration knob) and break NDP on
the interface once that policer is exceeded.  This is good (thanks,
Cisco) because it limits damage to one subnet; but bad because it
exemplifies the severity of the issue: the "Cisco solution" is known
to be bad, but is less bad than letting the whole box break.  Cisco is
not going to come up with a magic knob because there isn't any -- with
the current design, you have to pick your failure modes and live with
them.  That's not good and it is not a Cisco failing by any means, it
is a design failing brought on by the standards bodies.

Saying this over and over doesn't make it so...

1.      Block packets destined for your point-to-point links at your
        borders. There's no legitimate reason someone should be
        expecting your routers to respond to packets sent to the
        router specifically.

2.      For networks that aren't intended to receive inbound requests
        from the outside, limit such requests to the live hosts that
        exist on those networks with a stateful firewall.

3.      Police the ND issue rate on the router. Yes, it means that
        an ND attack could prevent some legitimate ND requests
        from getting through, but, at least it prevents ND overflow and
        the working hosts with existing ND entries continue to function.
        In most cases, this will be virtually all of the active hosts on
        the network.

All of these things can be done today with the knobs that exist.
The combination of them pretty much takes the wind out of any
ND table overflow attack. Yes, it involves some tradeoffs and
isn't a perfect solution. However, it is an effective mitigation.

Owen



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