Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

[Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>]

I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost. 

Jared Mauch

On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Jake Khuon <khuon () neebu net> wrote:
>
> > I guess this begs the question of whether or not we're seeing actual
> > layer1 going down or just the effects of mass BGP withdrawals.  Are we
> > seeing lights out on fibre links or just peering sessions going down?
> > Both could still point to a coordinated intentional blackout by the
> > Egyptian gov't though.
>
> out of curiousity, what's the difference though between loss of light
> and peer shutdown? If the local gov't comes in and says: "Make the
> internets go down", you as the op choose how to do that... NOT getting
> calls from your peer for interface alarms is probably sane. You can
> simply drop your routes, leave BGP running even and roll ...
>
> If it's clear (and it seems to be) that the issue is a
> nation-state-decision... implementation (how it's done, no IF it's
> done) isn't really important, is it?
>
> -chris