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Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database)
From: Michael Hallgren <m.hallgren () free fr>
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:36:37 +0100
Le mardi 01 février 2011 à 13:20 -0800, Owen DeLong a écrit :
On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Martin Millnert <millnert () gmail com> wrote:Here be dragons,<snip>It should be fairly obvious, by most recently what's going on in Egypt, why allowing a government to control the Internet is a Really Bad Idea.how is the egypt thing related to rPKI? How is the propsed rPKI work related to gov't control?RPKI is a big knob governments might be tempted to turn.architecturally/technologically *impossible* for a entity from country A to via-the-hierarchical-trust-model block a prefix assigned to some entity in country B, that is assigned by B's RIR and in full accordance with the RIR policies and in no breach of any contract.countries do not have RIR's, countries have NIR's... regions have RIR's.RIRs live in countries with governments. RIRs are unlikely to mount a successful challenge against an organization with tanks and mortars.
Yes, right. But RIR is (at least supposed to be) regional, so (hopefully) more stable from a policy point of view (since the number of national "stake holders" need to agree on a common policy). In theory, at least... mh
Owen
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- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Christopher Morrow (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Owen DeLong (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Michael Hallgren (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Owen DeLong (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Rubens Kuhl (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Owen DeLong (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Michael Hallgren (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Martin Millnert (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Michael Hallgren (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Owen DeLong (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Owen DeLong (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Karl Auer (Feb 01)
- Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database) Owen DeLong (Feb 01)