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Re: quietly....
From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:00:55 -0500 (EST)
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From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu>
Subject: Re: quietly.... On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:20:25 EST, Lamar Owen said:FTP is a in essence a peer-to-peer protocol, as both ends initiate TCP streams. I know that's nitpicking, but it is true.Well, it's official - the original end-to-end design principal of the Internet is dead, deceased, and buried. Henceforth, there will be Clients, and there will be Servers, and all nodes will be permanently classified as one or the other, with no changing or intermixing of status allowed.
Wow. $ANONYMOUS_COMMENTER was right: end-to-end isn't an engineering principle, it's a religion. There's nothing inherent in v6 that breaks it, Valdis, just as there was nothing in v4 that broke it. Or NAT44. Or whatever gets deployed for NAT66. If I, as the party responsible for an *end-user edge site*, decide that I do not feel the need to support it *all the way through my edge router*, that is my choice to make. It only affects *end users under my control*, and they're my users to make that decision for. But please don't go on about how the parrot has ceased to be, ok? Cheers, -- jra
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- Re: quietly...., (continued)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 03)
- RE: quietly.... kmedcalf () dessus com (Feb 19)
- Re: quietly.... Dave CROCKER (Feb 19)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 19)
- Re: quietly.... Dave CROCKER (Feb 19)
- Re: quietly.... Lamar Owen (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Lamar Owen (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Scott Helms (Feb 03)
- RE: quietly.... Matthew Huff (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Joe Greco (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 03)