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Re: quietly....
From: Blake Dunlap <ikiris () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:41:54 -0600
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 22:34, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com>If you're determined to destroy IPv6 by bringing the problems of NAT forward with you, then, I'm fine with you remaining in your IPv4 island. I'm willing to bet that most organizations will embrace an internet unencumbered by the brokenness that is NAT and move forward. I do not think that lack of NAT has been a significant barrier to IPv6 adoption, nor do I think it will be.I won't run an edge-network that *isn't* NATted; my internal machines have no business having publicly routable addresses. No one has *ever* provided me with a serviceable explanation as to why that's an invalid view. Cheers, -- jra
Quite simply, its called Tragedy of the Commons. Everyone else has to work harder to provide you services if you are using something which breaks end to end connectivity, which costs everyone else money. The protocol designers are making a stand against this for the good of the "commons". -Blake
Current thread:
- Re: quietly...., (continued)
- Re: quietly.... Geoff Huston (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Matthew Petach (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Rene Wilhelm (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Geoff Huston (Feb 01)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 01)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 01)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 01)
- Re: quietly.... David Barak (Feb 01)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 01)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Blake Dunlap (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Matthew Palmer (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Matthew Palmer (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 03)