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Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 18:28:40 -0500
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 07:49:21 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:Especially when some of the biggest IPv6 networks out there are still using it pretty heavily.
That's not a valid counter argument against people who found problems in certain environment. IPv6, as is, might work well under some environment assumed by IPng/IPv6 WG, a committee. The environment may be large.
IPv6 does not work well in many environments.
Feel free to try to deprecate *everything* that doesn't work well in many environments. Heck, SMTP doesn't work well in many environments (it's done in cleartext unless you deploy STARTTLS, it's subject to spamming, etc etc) - but I don't see you leading a charge to deprecate SMTP. Probably because you actually use it, even though it's totally unsuitable for many environments. It's one thing to deprecate something that's obviously a complete failure or has reached historic status - but RA isn't either of those *yet*.
In this case, the following statement in RFC1883:If the minimum time for rebooting the node is known (often more than 6 seconds),is the wrong assumption which made RA annoying.
Oddly enough, a lot of us are running on networks where assuming this about end user gear is perfectly reasonable. We haven't seen many consumer-grade Windows, Macs, or Linux boxes that are able to reboot in much under 6 seconds. Yes, I know you can do it with careful tuning and throwing SSDs and other hardware at it - doesn't mean it's common. Most of the time, any gains made in boot speed are immediately wiped out with "since it boots 10% faster, we can start 10% more stuff..."
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- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Ray Soucy (Dec 26)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 26)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Mark Radabaugh (Dec 26)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Steven Bellovin (Dec 26)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Seth Mos (Dec 26)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Mark Tinka (Dec 27)
- overview on defending DDoS attack Joe (Dec 27)
- Re: overview on defending DDoS attack Dobbins, Roland (Dec 27)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Tom Hill (Dec 27)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 27)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 27)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Ray Soucy (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Ray Soucy (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Ray Soucy (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Ray Soucy (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? TJ (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Cameron Byrne (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 28)