Re: Looking for a Tier 1 ISP Mentor for career advice.

[Mark Stevens <manager () monmouth com>]

It takes me years to find such people and when I do, I try very hard to 
keep them! I have 3 key people that fit the "soft" attribute criteria 
Randal mentioned, but with a premium skill set in their specific 
function. Good luck with your task Leigh!

Mark Stevens


On 12/1/2011 10:21 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
> I am looking for just such a person now. Good Juniper, some Cisco and Sysadmin experience with an ISP background..
>
> I expect it will be immensely difficult to find somebody. What makes it even more frustrating is that just such a 
> person was not all that long ago made redundant!
>
> So if anybody is looking for something to do around London...
>
> --
> Leigh
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: randal k [mailto:nanog () data102 com]
> > Sent: 01 December 2011 15:19
> > To: Bill Stewart
> > Cc: nanog () nanog org
> > Subject: Re: Looking for a Tier 1 ISP Mentor for career advice.
> >
> > This is a huge point. We've had a LOT of trouble finding good network
> > engineers who have all of the previously mentioned "soft" attributes -
> > attitude, team player, can write, can speak, can run a small project -
> > and
> > are more than just Cisco pimps. I cannot explain how frustrating it is
> > to
> > meet a newly minted CCNP who has zero Linux experience, can't script
> > anything, can't setup a syslog server, doesn't understand AD much less
> > LDAP, etc. Imagine, an employee who can help themselves 90% of the time
> > ...
> >
> > Finding the diamond that has strong niche skill, networking, with a
> > broad&
> > just-deep-enough sysadmin background has been very, very hard. I cannot
> > emphasize enough the importance of cross-training. Immensely valuable.
> >
> > Randal
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Bill Stewart<nonobvious () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >   And yeah, sometimes it means that you need to go
> > > learn technologies like Active Directory
> >   [snip]
> >
> > > In addition to learning scripting languages
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