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Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again...
From: James M Keller <jmkeller () houseofzen org>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:04:28 -0500
On 12/21/2011 3:22 PM, David Swafford wrote:
In my position within the enterprise vertical, backdating to the expiration (not the payment date) seems to be the norm. Cisco does this on SmartNet, as does SolarWinds and a number of other vendors I've worked with. We don't typically slip on the dates intentionally, but our procurement and legal groups have a habit of fighting over wording on the contracts. David.
Having worked in the past at a shop that sold managed support agreements for software we sold - the overhead for staffing and code and blacklisting type data sets are spread out in the yearly support agreement. A lapsed customer has not funded the delta changes in code and data set from lapsed data to renewal date, but will get to take advantage of the work. While a new customer also will not fund these on a new starting contract, that is normally considered some cost of acquiring new business. Now in some cases on the other end of the transaction I've found it cheaper to buy 'new' then it was to 'true up' the support. I haven't found a vendor that wouldn't go that route, even if it involved getting some escalation on the sales side first. At that point it's the cost of customer retention vs new business that the vendor needs to worry about. However if you are happy with the product, and the renewal isn't more then 'new' purchases - we all shouldn't be baulking having to 'true up' contracts. -- --- James M Keller
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- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... John Palmer (NANOG Acct) (Dec 23)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Jeremy Parr (Dec 22)
- RE: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Eric J Esslinger (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Jay Ashworth (Dec 21)
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