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Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.
From: David Conrad <drc () virtualized org>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:47:36 -0800
On Dec 14, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote
Wait... you had started using bogon addresses / "squatted" space not allocated and claimed the number of IP addresses your network is using that were not allocated by a RIR settles the need justification question?
I'm confused. When justifying 'need' in an address allocation request, what difference does it make whether an address in use was allocated by an RIR or was squatted upon? Last I heard, renumbering out of (say) RFC 1918 space into public space was still a justification for address space. Has this changed?
You need to have all the documentation to show the actual justified technical need for the IPs you request, such as what each specific address is used for.
Perhaps I'm naive, but I tend to give folks like Cameron the benefit of the doubt when it comes to dealing with IP address allocation requests and assume he provided a bit more information than what you're suggesting. I find the suggestions by other posters that he look at IPv6 particularly amusing. Unfortunately, regardless of the specifics of Cameron's case, the reality is that the traditional model of address allocation (i.e., "to each according to need" to quote a 19th century philosopher) is rapidly coming to a close. I expect there will be many more situations like Cameron's in the future. Regards, -drc
Current thread:
- De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Cameron Byrne (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Rubens Kuhl (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Andrew D Kirch (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Robert E. Seastrom (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. David Conrad (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Jeff Wheeler (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Jimmy Hess (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Joel jaeggli (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. David Conrad (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Jimmy Hess (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Jared Mauch (Dec 14)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Matthew Kaufman (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Matthew Kaufman (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Jimmy Hess (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Ricky Beam (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. David Conrad (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Leo Bicknell (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Joel jaeggli (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Rubens Kuhl (Dec 14)