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Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 23:35:06 -0800
On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:20 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:10:14 PST, Owen DeLong said:No, a Trojan is malware. Any software which operates without the knowledge or consent of the user to engage in operations the user would not reasonably expect is not being used for good, no matter how well intentioned.Strictly speaking, it's "without the knowledge or consent of the *owner*". Especially in corporate environments, "owner" != "user".
I would argue that the superset applies in a proper definition here. Software which operates with the knowledge and consent of the owner, but, not the knowledge or consent of the end-user is still, IMHO, nefarious at best. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!], (continued)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Jay Ashworth (Dec 07)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Bryan Fields (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] andrew.wallace (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] TR Shaw (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Michael Thomas (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Michael Painter (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Owen DeLong (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Owen DeLong (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 07)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Owen DeLong (Dec 07)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Michael Painter (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Owen DeLong (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Jared Mauch (Dec 06)