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Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers
From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:53:11 -0400 (EDT)
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From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com>
On Aug 3, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:You guys aren't *near* paranoid enough. :-) If the ISP a) Assigns dynamic addresses to customers, and b) changes those IPs on a relatively short scale (days) then c) outside parties *who are not the ISP or an LEO* will have a relatively harder time tying together two visits solely by the IP address.ROFL... Yeah, right... Because the MAC suffix won't do anything.
Did I mention I haven't implemented v6 yet? :-) *Really*? It bakes the endpoint MAC into the IP? Well, that's miserably poor architecture design.
While this isn't "privacy", per se, that "making harder" is at least somewhat useful to a client in reducing the odds that such non-ISP/LEO parties will be unable to tie their visits, assuming they've controlled the items they *can* control (cookies, flash cookies, etc).Which is something, what, 1% of people probably even know how to do, let alone practice on a regular basis.
Yup; let's go out of our way to penalize the smart people; that's a *great* plan; I so enjoy it when people do it -- and they do it *far* too often for my tastes.
Imperfect security != no security, *as long as you know where the holes are*.If people want this, they can use RFC-4193 to just about the same effect. The ISP modifying the prefix regularly simply doesn't do much.
I'll make a note of it. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Current thread:
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers, (continued)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers sthaug (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Owen DeLong (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers William Allen Simpson (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Bill Woodcock (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Matthew Palmer (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers sthaug (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Owen DeLong (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Owen DeLong (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Dave Hart (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Hannes Frederic Sowa (Aug 04)
- RE: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Leo Vegoda (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Matthew Moyle-Croft (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Scott Reed (Aug 02)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Owen DeLong (Aug 02)