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Re: IPv6 end user addressing


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:12:31 -0700


On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
That said, /48 to the home should be what is happening, and /56 is
a better compromise than anything smaller.

Is hierarchical routing within the SOHO network the reason you believe
/48 is useful?  You don't really imagine that end-users will require
more than 2^8 subnets, but that they will want several levels of very
simple, nibble-aligned routers within their network?


Not necessarily nibble aligned, but, multiple bits per level, yes.

This is perhaps a good discussion to have.  I, for one, see CPE
vendors still shipping products without IPv6 support at all, let alone
any mechanism for creating an address or routing hierarchy within the
home without the end-user configuring it himself.  I am not aware of
any automatic means to do this, or even any working group trying to
produce that feature.


If we are stingy in address allocations, it will stifle such innovations as
the vendors tend to develop to the lowest common denominator. If we
make the allocations available, innovative ideas will make use of them.

Is it true that there is no existing work on this?  If that is the
case, why would we not try to steer any such future work in such a way
that it can manage to do what the end-user wants without requiring a
/48 in their home?


No, it is not true.

I suppose that limiting enough households to too small an allocation
will have that effect. I would rather we steer the internet deployment
towards liberal enough allocations to avoid such disability for the
future.

Have we learned nothing from the way NAT shaped the (lack of)
innovation in the home?

Owen



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