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Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care?
From: Jason Baugher <jason () thebaughers com>
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:30:41 -0500
On 4/4/2011 1:04 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
Full disclosure in abuse is not necessarily equivalent to full disclosure in -suspected- abuse. The earlier comments in this thread were more or less demands for disclosure when the vendor had not yet been able to speak with the customer to determine if there was indeed abuse and if it was intentional.On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 06:09:22PM -0500, Jason Baugher wrote:We would NEVER "out" the customer to the public, even if we felt the abuse was intentional. My CEO and our lawyers would blow a gasket if we were to potentially libel a customer.And this why we (the community) find ourselves where we do, because nearly everyone has this policy or one quite similar to it. Until this changes -- which will require CEOs with spines and lawyers who craft ToS agreements that stipulate full disclosure in abuse cases -- there will always be one more place for The Bad Guys to go.
I suppose theoretically that a ToS could be crafted that would allow the vendor to release customer information in the case of ANY suspected abuse, but do you really think that would make a difference to "The Bad Guys"?
Jason Jason
Current thread:
- Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? Ronald F. Guilmette (Apr 01)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? Rich Kulawiec (Apr 01)
- Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? C. Jon Larsen (Apr 01)
- Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? Hank Nussbacher (Apr 01)
- HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? Atticus (Apr 01)
- Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? Jason Baugher (Apr 02)
- Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? Rich Kulawiec (Apr 04)
- Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? Jason Baugher (Apr 04)
- Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 04)
- Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? Jason Baugher (Apr 04)