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Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31
From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:29:45 -0500
On 10/21/2010 9:09 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
Either way, it's an interesting time to be an edge operator that worries about CPE stuff. those that think mostly about core this is a big fat *yawn* imho. Expect application developers to face some interesting challenges. me? I'm waiting until I see the "NOW WITH IPv6" sticker on things at the store.
1. Core routing/BGP check 2. Servers check 3. load balancers? oops, semi-check 4. edge check5. Telco maintained CPE check (There's a reason we didn't do pppoe), for others, fail
6. Customer provided CPE/routers/etc failIt took off the shelf CPEs some time to get it right at autodetecting and handling the numerous Provider Edge setups. v6 actually adds a whole new arsenal of setups that can exist at the Provider Edge. People are crazy if they think the provider will adjust to a billion different setups. The cheap routers have a long ways to go to support this new variety of setups.
I'm personally partial to DHCPv6 TA addressing (SLAAC at provider edge is cool, but there are too many issues with it, especially when trying to track users) with 86400 preferred and 172800 valid and NAK the renewal, combined with DHCPv6-PD with 86400 preferred and 172800 valid and NAK the renewal. This gives a 24 hour prefix rotation for new connections and a 24 hour hold time for old connections. Combined with privacy extensions, it should pollute geo IP databases with horribly wrong information and make it more difficult for certain types of malicious network attacks. :)
Jack
Current thread:
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31, (continued)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Majdi S. Abbas (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Claudio Jeker (Oct 21)
- RE: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Deepak Jain (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Michael Dillon (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Christopher Morrow (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Barry Shein (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Niels Bakker (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Jack Bates (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Barry Shein (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Jared Mauch (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Jack Bates (Oct 21)
- cost of IPv4 bmanning (Oct 21)
- Re: cost of IPv4 Jorge Amodio (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Mark Smith (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Barry Shein (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Dave CROCKER (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Joe Maimon (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Barry Shein (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Michael Dillon (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Franck Martin (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv4 sunset date set for 2019-12-31 Justin M. Streiner (Oct 21)