Re: Only 5x IPv4 /8 remaining at IANA

[Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>]

In message <C8E33F22.6369D%zaid () zaidali com>, Zaid Ali writes:
> If you run Cisco ACE load balancers and start with your web server farm I
> can assure you that you will be stuck because ACE loaad balancers do not
> support v6 and don't plan to until mid next year and not without a new
> card/cost.

So stick a router in parallel and just route IPv6 over it.
So stick in a IPv6->IPv4 proxy and send that traffic through the
load balancer.

> If you run ACE in non routed mode then you a doubly stuck because
> you can't even by bypass the loadbalancer to reach one of your webservers
> since the ACE doesn't pass v6 traffic! So I agree, don't start there instead
> get the corporate LAN, learn from it then move onto your production facing
> networks. Also get white listed for Google NS so you can see more user
> traffic.
>
> Zaid
>
>
> On 10/19/10 11:30 AM, "Franck Martin" <franck () genius com> wrote:
>
> > No, no....
> >
> > Putting your servers on IPv6 is a major task. Load balancers, proprietary
> > code, log analysis, database records... all that needs to be reviewed to se
> e
> > if it is compatible with IPv6 (and a few equipments need recent upgrades if
> > even they can do IPv6 today).
> >
> > Putting your client machines (ie internal network) to IPv6 is relatively ea
> sy.
> > Enable IPv6 on the border router, you don't need failover (can built it lat
> er)
> > as anyhow the clients will failover to IPv4 if IPv6 fails... So as failover
>  is
> > not needed you can have a separate simple IPv6 network infrastructure on to
> p
> > of your IPv4 Infrastructure.
> >
> > So my advocacy, is get your client (I'm not talking about customers here, b
> ut
> > client as client/server) machines on IPv6, get your engineers, support
> > staff,.. to be familiar with IPv6, then all together you can better underst
> and
> > how to migrate your servers infrastructure to IPv6 (and your customers to I
> Pv6
> > if you are an ISP).
> >
> > If you do that, you will see migration to IPv6 is made much easier, and muc
> h
> > faster.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com>
> > To: "Franck Martin" <franck () genius com>
> > Cc: "Jonas Frey (Probe Networks)" <jf () probe-networks de>, "Jeffrey Lyon"
> > <jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net>, "NANOG list" <nanog () nanog org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010 8:55:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: Only 5x IPv4 /8 remaining at IANA
> >
> > Servers work just fine over tunnels if necessary too.
> >
> > Get your public-facing content and services on IPv6 as fast as possible.
> > Make IPv6 available to your customers as quickly as possible too.
> >
> > Finally, your internal IT resources (other than your support department(s))
> > can
> > probably wait a little while.
> >
> > Owen
> >
> > On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
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