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RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time
From: "George Bonser" <gbonser () seven com>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:27:47 -0700
-----Original Message----- From: Ricky Beam Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:00 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 06:45:10 -0400, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:It's not so much a matter of whether ARIN cares or whether ARIN
wants
to do something about your issue. It's more a matter of whether ARIN is empowered to do anything at all about your issue.EXACTLY. Ron, what exactly do you expect ARIN to do? Where is the magic wand one would wave to erase routes from the internet? ARIN (in fact NO ONE) has no actual means to block or recend any route announcement. Do you suggest they sue whomever is involved? That won't be very fast, or even an option outside the US.
The problem as I see it is that ARIN is responsible for issuing number resources but is not responsible for any maintenance of the number space. It seems they have no requirement/method/need to revoke assignments once the assigned entity no longer exists. I am not looking for perfection but there should be some sort of diligence requirement that the most obvious of the low hanging fruit (or fruit that falls right off the tree into their lap) be dealt with in some way. If an entity liquidates, then their resources should be reclaimed. How many entities does ARIN have who have not made a payment for 2 or more consecutive years but still have resources assigned? It is my personal opinion that ARIN (and the other registrars) must have the authority and the mechanism to reclaim community resources when the entity they were issued to disappears. That seems like a fairly easy concept. Note I am not talking about misuse here, just the fact that if a community resource is issued to an entity and that entity no longer exists, those resources should be reclaimed by the community within some reasonable amount of time. G
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time, (continued)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time William Herrin (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time David Miller (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Christopher Morrow (Oct 01)
- Verifying route origins and ownership (Was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time) Jeroen Massar (Oct 01)
- Re: Verifying route origins and ownership (Was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time) Christopher Morrow (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time bmanning (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time bmanning (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Justin M. Streiner (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time George Bonser (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time John Curran (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time (more re: recovered resources) John Curran (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time (more re: recovered resources) John Springer (Oct 01)