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Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)
From: Nick Hilliard <nick () foobar org>
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:08:53 +0000
On 08/11/2010 21:51, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
So there's empirical data that It Does Indeed Matter (at least to some people).
It certainly does. However, there is lots more empirical data to suggest that It Does Not Matter to most service providers. We tried introducing it to INEX several years ago. Of 40-something connected parties, only one was really interested enough to do something about it. Another indicated interest but then pulled back when they realised a) the amount of work it would take to support it across their network, b) the scope for painful breakage if they accidentally got something wrong somewhere and c) the benefit they would get from it. Probably most interesting aspect was the cost / benefit analysis. One the one hand, there was little to no benefit for end-users and hosted services on the commercial ISP that showed interest. However, the NREN which was interested could have made real use out of it, in terms of dealing with very speed single-stream data transfers. Anyway, all of the arguments for it, both pro and con, have been rehashed on this thread. The bottom line is that for most companies, it simply isn't worth the effort, but that for some NRENs, it is. Let's move on now. Nick
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- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-), (continued)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 07)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 07)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Nick Hilliard (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Chris Adams (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Niels Bakker (Nov 09)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Nathan Eisenberg (Nov 09)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Matthew Petach (Nov 06)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 06)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 06)