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RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions


From: "Ryan Finnesey" <ryan.finnesey () HarrierInvestments com>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 03:54:28 -0800

It may have something to do with that Level3 is now hosting all the
streaming content for Netflixs.
Cheers
Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Donnelly [mailto:tad1214 () gmail com] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:52 PM
To: Rettke, Brian; Patrick W. Gilmore; NANOG list; Guerra, Ruben
Subject: Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning
Comcast'sActions

"On November 19, 2010, Comcast informed Level 3 that, for the first
time, it will demand a recurring fee from Level 3 to transmit Internet
online movies and other content to Comcast's customers who request such
content."

If the issue is bandwidth, then why not charge for bandwidth? Picking a
specific service says we are trying to squash the competition.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:48:06 -0600, Guerra, Ruben
<Ruben.Guerra () arrisi com> wrote:

I'd have to agree with Brian. There is no simple answer to this one...

If the ultimate cause is the abuse of bandwidth, I can understand 
this... BUT if the underlying motive is to squash competition then 
shame on you!



-----Original Message-----
From: Rettke, Brian [mailto:Brian.Rettke () cableone biz]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 4:41 PM
To: Patrick W. Gilmore; NANOG list
Subject: RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning  
Comcast's Actions

Essentially, the question is who has to pay for the infrastructure to

support the bandwidth requirements of all of these new and booming  
streaming ventures. I can understand both the side taken by Comcast,
and  
the side of the content provider, but I don't think it's as simple as

the slogans spewed out regarding "Net Neutrality", which has become so

misused and abused as a term that I don't think it has any credulous  
value remaining.

I'm hoping that there is an eventual meeting of the minds wherein some

sort of collaboration takes place. If this gets additional government

regulations I fear no one will like the result.

Sincerely,

Brian A . Rettke
RHCT, CCDP, CCNP, CCIP
Network Engineer, CableONE Internet Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patrick () ianai net]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 3:28 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's

Actions


<http://www.marketwatch.com/story/level-3-communications-issues-statemen
t-concerning-comcasts-actions-2010-11-29?reflink=MW_news_stmp>

I understand that politics is off-topic, but this policy affects  
operational aspects of the 'Net.

Just to be clear, L3 is saying content providers should not have to
pay  
to deliver content to broadband providers who have their own product  
which has content as well.  I am certain all the content providers on

this list are happy to hear L3's change of heart and will be applying

for settlement free peering tomorrow.  (L3 wouldn't want other
providers  
to claim the Vyvx or CDN or other content services provided by L3 are

competing and L3 is putting up a "toll booth" on the Internet, would  
they?)

--
TTFN,
patrick






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