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Re: BGP and convergence time
From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 20:56:28 -0500
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:31:51PM -0400, Jay Nakamura wrote:
Yes, I understand BFD. The question is, do carriers usually do BFD with customers? And if they say no, are there other remedies? AT&T doesn't seem to be even willing to change BGP timers. If anyone have been able to talk AT&T or Qwest in doing so, it would really help to find out how they convinced them. They are such a big bureaucracies that it's frustrating to do anything that makes sense. Although Qwest seems a lot more responsive than AT&T.
Slow as the titanic carriers won't do anything innovative for anyone, regardless of the benefit. Try a clueful carrier and they'll be happy to run BFD with you. Of course after promoting it for more than a year now we have something like 5 peers and 0 customers using it (mostly because of broken vendor implementations), but hey it's never too late to start. :) -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
Current thread:
- BGP and convergence time Jay Nakamura (May 11)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Seth Mattinen (May 11)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Randy Bush (May 11)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Jay Nakamura (May 11)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Richard A Steenbergen (May 11)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Jay Nakamura (May 11)
- RE: BGP and convergence time Frank Bulk (May 13)
- Re: BGP and convergence time shake righa (May 14)
- Re: BGP and convergence time shake righa (May 14)
- Re: BGP and convergence time shake righa (May 14)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: BGP and convergence time Scott Weeks (May 11)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Matthew Walster (May 12)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Jay Nakamura (May 12)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Danny McPherson (May 12)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Richard A Steenbergen (May 12)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Matthew Walster (May 12)
- Re: BGP and convergence time Joel Jaeggli (May 19)