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Re: XO feedback


From: todd glassey <tglassey () earthlink net>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 06:28:39 -0700

 On 7/2/2010 10:47 PM, Jared Geiger wrote:
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Adam Rothschild
<asr+nanog () latency net<asr%2Bnanog () latency net>
wrote:

How many co-lo centers do they operate and where are they ? - Curiosity
on my part.

Todd

Here in the New York Metro, XO's collocation offering is pretty solid.
No frills, but competently managed, and offered under a reasonable
pricing model for retail collocation.

I've had similarly positive experiences with their transport side of
the house.  I've not looked at the IP product...

I certainly belive the negative XO feedback shared; having heard
similar, it would seem there's definite potential to be treated as
merely a number.  At the same time, our experience has been great, and
I'd happily recommend them.  I think the quality of your XO customer
experience is directly proportional to the caliber of your account
team, along with your ability to vendor-manage and assemble a suitable
escalation matrix.

As for the Savvis suggestion, I'm not sure I'd agree.  We're in 2010,
yet they continue to maintain a fair number of gigabit-sized peering
interfaces, seemingly operating at or close to capacity.

HTH,
-a


In the DC Market I can provide this input:

Voice PRIs - Apparently they don't realize they can provide CNAM service and
will argue that CallerID Name is not available from XO at all.

Voice SIP - They had a major DID outage this year for 8 to 12 hours that was
nationwide.

Point to Point DS3 - 3 or 4 complete failures in the past year. They then
failed to work with the local ILEC to arrange a time to meet and test
equipment. If I buy a circuit from XO, I don't expect to have to call Qwest
and Verizon to organize engineers. I'm paying XO to do that for me. Each
outage was on average 3 days long.

In the Las Vegas Market:

Flex T1 - Internet latency was extremely high. However they did install the
circuit in 2 weeks.

Usually the pricing is very good and this makes it hard to weigh all the
cons.

~Jared




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