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Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs
From: James Hess <mysidia () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:12:27 -0500
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
Crist Clark wrote:
An interesting if disturbing thing to see... I suppose there is a possibility that some IP address speculator is trying to er, acquire interesting /24s in anticipation of RIR address exhaustion. I have doubts that an unsolicited e-mail sender intends that proper policy be followed. especially since they didn't well, in that unsolicited introduction, even bother with a pretense of a legitimate assignment reason for PA that would be valid, such as buying IP connectivity or transit services. they would probably like things recorded as a simple assign with anonymized contact info. Presumptively if their intent is nefarious, they just need to fool one ISP...
According to Whois data, you company owns the following
Has been assigned, not owns. ARIN RSA Section 9. No property rights.
PI (Provider Independent) or PA (Provider Assigned) status?They would have to justify their need with ARIN prior to the transfer actually taking effect, but, this is now allowed for /22 and shorter under NRPM 8.3 (for better or worse).
They think PA means "Provider Assigned"? PA conventionally means really provider aggregable, and according to ARIN policy ASSIGNED PA space is for use in connection with network services obtained through the provider assigning it, ARIN NRPM 2.4, 4.2.1.1, 4.2.3.1, 4.2.3.4.1, 4.2.3.7.1. Blocks in the middle of an ISP allocation cannot be changed to PI blocks by providers these days, not without a transfer approved by ARIN anyways. At some point ARIN added requirements to the RSA, that require ISPs to refrain from permanently assigning rights to blocks of IP addresses, when IP addresses are assigned to users. The only way anything assigned directly by an ISP could be PI is back before the requirements were added to the RSA, if the ISP assigned the IP block, without making the user promise to 'return the addresses', and only if the user who got the assignment never later agreed they would return IP addresses when services ended.... ARIN RSA 15(a)(i): "(i) Except as provided in 15(a)(ii), Applicant may not assign or delegate this Agreement or any of its rights or obligations under it, including without limitation the exclusive right to use the number resources allocated or assigned to it, without ARIN’s express written permission, (ii) The event of any transaction (whether a merger, acquisition, or sale) in which Applicant’s controlling managerial and/or voting interest changes during the term of this Agreement shall be considered an assignment, so long as the Applicant provides ARIN with written notification within thirty (30) days of such assignment." -- -JH
Current thread:
- Inquiries to Acquire IPs Crist Clark (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Seth Mattinen (Jul 02)
- RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Schiller, Heather A (HeatherSkanks) (Jul 02)
- RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Michael Smith (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Michael Thomas (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Owen DeLong (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Seth Mattinen (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs James Hess (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Oscar Ricardo Silva (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Kevin Stange (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Jess Kitchen (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Richard Barnes (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Rob Evans (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Michael Loftis (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Dan White (Jul 02)
- RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Aaron Wendel (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Matthew Palmer (Jul 02)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Mans Nilsson (Jul 03)
- Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Kevin Stange (Jul 02)