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Re: Out-of-band paging
From: Martin Hepworth <maxsec () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:52:45 +0100
On 28 July 2010 15:42, Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org> wrote:
In a message written on Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 04:38:25PM +0200, Joel M Snyder wrote:But... you can take this sort of 'single point of failure' argument almost as far as you want. In the security business (where I spend most of my time), I see people do this a lot--they get deep into the ultra-ultra-ultra marginal risk, which takes then an enormous amount of money to mitigate. It's an easy rat hole to explore, and often fun.I agree worring about the cell site is not the worry. However I suspect many of the folks relying on SMS have no idea how it works inside the carrier. There are in fact other points of failure that may be much more "single point". For instance your SMS likely passes through a database in the carrier network (in case your phone is off). That's redundant, right? Fully RAID'ed and a hot standby spare and all that, after all it probably handles SMS's for a few million customers. Not always. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/<http://www.ufp.org/%7Ebicknell/>
(view from the UK where SMS is very very prevalent) TXT's can take ages to deliver (hours days not uncommon). GSM networks can get put to emergency access only so they don't get swamped when a civil emergency occurs and emergency workers need priority access to mobile network. eg 7 July 2005 in London -- Martin Hepworth Oxford, UK
Current thread:
- Re: Out-of-band paging (was: Web expert ...) Joel M Snyder (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging (was: Web expert ...) Brandon Ross (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging (was: Web expert ...) Joe Greco (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging Joel M Snyder (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging Leo Bicknell (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging Martin Hepworth (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging Chris Adams (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging Joe Greco (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging Jack Bates (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging (was: Web expert ...) Joe Greco (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging Steve Gibbard (Jul 28)
- Re: Out-of-band paging (was: Web expert ...) Brandon Ross (Jul 28)